Episode 1.1, "A Study In Pink"

[sittything]

I did not notice that Angelo is a different actor.  

[sittything]

There's also a space-time rift in Cardiff.  ;)  Oh wait, wrong show...

[Carol the Dabbler]

I did not notice that Angelo is a different actor.  

 

Thank you!  Now I feel a little better about that.

 

[SherlockedCAMPer]

 

I like the poison-deduction-connections. :D

 

Okay, so here's a nice tidbit for you, not by me but gleaned from the findings of the more observant side of this wild fandom:

 

Two weird connections --

• John Watson / Jennifer Wilson
• John's child will be a girl / Jennifer Wilson's was a stillborn girl
• John and Jen are lefties
• John's a minor celeb / Jennifer had a job, probably "something in the media"
• John goes through relationships like water / Jennifer is a serial adulterer

 

Important details 'bout Jennifer Wilson --

• Unhappy marriage for over 10+ years
• Stillborn daughter born 14 years ago (well in the range of 10+ years)
• "Rachel" -- her daughter's name -- means "lamb"

 

Strange coincidences, yes? But the universe (well, Moftiss's) is rarely so lazy.

 

And don't forget Moftiss's love of nursery tales -- if the Watson kid does end up stillborn, then that means

• Mary had a little lamb
• Its fleece was white as snow*

 

 

*white, as in a cold and dead body

 

 

This is good, but the last part is just wrong on so many levels while being completely brilliant.  Would have liked the post up til that point.  Well written nonetheless.

 

 

I did not notice that Angelo is a different actor.  

 

Thank you!  Now I feel a little better about that.

 

 

 I didn't notice that either. And I did the re-watch of both episodes.  Now to watch them again, at least that part in both episodes.

[Carol the Dabbler]

When I look at their photos, it's obvious that they're two different men.  But apparently they both played the character so similarly that I never noticed.  Though I did notice that the candle was different!

 

Here he is in the pilot:

 

 

And here he is in the 90-minute episode:

 

[Inge l-w]

Of course they are two different actors, for both Angelo and Donovan, you just have to read the end credits!

The flagon with the dragon and the chalice from the palace are all-time favourites.

Absolutely brilliant connection of initials, but if they kill the baby and leave "Mary", aka Mrs Smith, alive to grieve along with Dr Watson, it's curtains for the show!

As for the "drugs bust" bit, Sherlock manages to turn a very near catastrophe into a major breakthrough, although Lestrade introduces the infantilisation of the great detective when Sherlock complains that it is childish and he retorts "I'm dealing with a child." Just brilliant, Mr Moffat on his warpath against his alleged childhood hero!

[jadpdr]

Last week, I had to work too long to be able to watch the pilot episode, so I watched them back to back yesterday, where all the little differences magnified themselves, decor, lighting, clothing, Sherlock's sheer exuberance in the first and more somber mien in the second, the "three patch problem" being the modern version of the "three pipe problem" in ACD, the different settings for the meetings of both Mike Stamford and Dr Watson and of Sherlock and Dr Watson, the different angles of the morgue scene, his much more deliberate decision to follow the cabbie in SiP as compared to his pretend-drunk act in the pilot episode. On the whole, a most satisfying re-watch, which has been tremenduously enhanced by all the lovely insights above.

[Arcadia]

I never noticed about Angelo either. But then, I wasn't exactly looking at him .... (not only did I not observe, I didn't see!)

 

Credits? Who reads credits? :D

[J.P.]

Re: Sherlock's hand movements: I think while he is still in the door, the strange gesture is just an end to putting on a rubber glove. When he outstreches his hand toward the body, it is deliberate.

[Van Buren Supernova]

J.P.

I still cannot figure it out: what is Sherlock actually doing? Being snarky or trying to do smalltalk? You noticed that he hesitates before he says about her mouth: "it's too... small now"? He never hesitates being snarky.

I'm leaning on it being smalltalk. 

You are right, Sherlock would have no problem spurting well constructed insults left and right in speed of light years.

I envy him for that. Imagine walking into a room, make a fast talking insults to everyone and walk out before everyone get what was happening to them.

 

 

Initial reactions: I think, if I had just happened on Sherlock, instead of seeking it out because I'd heard so much about it ... based on the first few minutes, I don't think I would have been very interested. To me the Afghanistan footage looks like cheap video and somehow unconvincing; and then we have a series of people we don't care about wandering off into the night and ending up dead. I am not, at heart, a fan of crime dramas, and this all seems like fairly typical stuff.

 

Then Sherlock swans into the scene. That's it, I'm in love for life.

 Watched SIP because I got nothing else and thought it would help me fall asleep. Ended up pushing well through midnight, didn't realize it was 90 minutes, and thinking about rushing home to watch the rest all day at work.

 

That's exactly how Alex and I found Sherlock -- we had heard nothing about it till maybe 30 seconds before it started, then we got to a friend's house just as she was turning on the TV. We were intrigued by what little the friend had time to tell us ("Sherlock Holmes in the 21st Century"), but I think I was really hooked by "We'll start with the riding crop."

 Yes. They had me at that. 

Never imagine someone beating up a corpse would be so fascinating.

 

 

Of course from a mature point of view, Lestrade is totally in the right (I guess), but I am not exactly known for being mature... Another reason why I love series 1 Sherlock so much, I guess. I seem to identify with his "bratty" side. Of course I can keep myself in check because I tell myself "who are you to act like you're special", but Sherlock actually is special, so...

I like how Lestrade pulled up his shirt to reveal the tobacco patch as well, and said,"We are in this together."

 

 

On other notes. I notice Donovan and Angelo being different actors without reading the credit on UP watch.

Do I get any prize? Food? It's been a while since I eat something.

[J.P.]

Here:

[Van Buren Supernova]

Here:

:lol: 

[J.P.]

Was it already discussed?: while during the showdown there were two bottles with one pill each, the other victims had bottles with three pills. I doubt it was coincidental.

[SherlockedCAMPer]

It was mentioned but not discussed. Got me thinking that maybe that was supposed to be the final showdown.

[J.P.]

But it wasn't a countdown either. What if the thing with them both taking their medicine was a lie? Remember - it was Jim in the background pulling the strings.

[BlackButterfly]

There doesn't seem to be a specific subtext thread here..

But does anyone else wonder, of all the colours of the rainbow....why pink ?

[Pamela]

There doesn't seem to be a specific subtext thread here..

But does anyone else wonder, of all the colours of the rainbow....why pink ?

I suppose they wanted a shade of 'scarlet' and the sound of 'pink' as well as the color itself tickled their fancy more than, say, 'crimson.' How's that? Sound like our boys?

[Carol the Dabbler]

Was it already discussed?: while during the showdown there were two bottles with one pill each, the other victims had bottles with three pills. I doubt it was coincidental.

 

Already discussed but still puzzling!

 

I did notice that in the pilot, Sherlock's bottles had three pills each (though they were a little hard to see, due to the brown glass).

 

But it wasn't a countdown either. What if the thing with them both taking their medicine was a lie? Remember - it was Jim in the background pulling the strings.

 

Even if the cabbie thought there was "a good bottle and a bad bottle," he presumably got the pills from Jim, who may have been lying to him.  What if both pills were poison?  That would tie up all the lose ends very nicely for Jim.

 

 

There doesn't seem to be a specific subtext thread here..

But does anyone else wonder, of all the colours of the rainbow....why pink ?

I suppose they wanted a shade of 'scarlet' and the sound of 'pink' as well as the color itself tickled their fancy more than, say, 'crimson.' How's that? Sound like our boys?

 

That's what I've been assuming.  The episode is an echo of the original story, and pink is a pale version of scarlet.

[Arcadia]

There doesn't seem to be a specific subtext thread here..

But does anyone else wonder, of all the colours of the rainbow....why pink ?

There is a subtext thread... here.

[Van Buren Supernova]

 

 

There doesn't seem to be a specific subtext thread here..

But does anyone else wonder, of all the colours of the rainbow....why pink ?

I suppose they wanted a shade of 'scarlet' and the sound of 'pink' as well as the color itself tickled their fancy more than, say, 'crimson.' How's that? Sound like our boys?

 

 

That's what I've been assuming.  The episode is an echo of the original story, and pink is a pale version of scarlet.

 

Imho, pink is more intriguing, it sound light and associated with happier color (so what is there to study about?) and also pink is much closely related to female gender, especially hot pink. The possibility is bigger for male to have stuff in other colors nowadays so hot pink is probably the best bet. It's one of the main plot point that leads to the 'mistake' of the serial killer. The suitcase.

 

Anyway, even if it's quite uncommon for adults to be obsessed with color coordination that much, pink is also probably a better choice from all the color chart. One, the color have to stand out, so natural colors are out. Second, it has to be girly color for the plot so blue and green are out, that's left quite a small range of prominent colors (let's just assume lilac is purple and turquoise and cyan is greenblue ), so we have red, orange, yellow, purple.

 

The other colors can be quite neutral on both gender for suitcase.

So it would be much more believable for Jennifer Wilson to be dressed in all pink, instead of looking like walking banana or pumpkin.

 

 

Remind to self: Too much time dedicated for this and need more for real life.

[Arcadia]

Real life is boring, remember?

[Shadow Dweller]

Pink also often associated with youth (girl), lack of wisdom and naiveté.

[J.P.]

Re: pink. Maybe they got inspired by Harry Potter? Or just couldn't find an outfit in another color. :D

A pink case is much outstanding and un-suitable for a man than any other color, maybe beside pea green.

Jennifer Wilson was dressed in girly pink, but she was clever enough to impress Sherlock.

 

Re: Pills.

 

Even if the cabbie thought there was "a good bottle and a bad bottle," he presumably got the pills from Jim, who may have been lying to him.  What if both pills were poison?  That would tie up all the lose ends very nicely for Jim.

 

Yes - in that final confrontation.

What I try to suggest is that maybe the "game" was different for the victims and for Sherlock. Cabbie had no reason to tell him the truth about how he killed the others. He might even not be a genius as he tries to suggest. He was Jim's puppet.

Possible scenario: the victims get a choice between being shot and taking one of three pills, one of them poisoned. This makes the chance of survival like 1:2, still better than 1:1.

[Van Buren Supernova]

Real life is boring, remember?

 

Yeah I know.. too bad it pays the bills.  XD

[Carol the Dabbler]

One, the color have to stand out, so natural colors are out. Second, it has to be girly color for the plot so blue and green are out, that's left quite a small range of prominent colors (let's just assume lilac is purple and turquoise and cyan is greenblue ), so we have red, orange, yellow, purple.

 

The other colors can be quite neutral on both gender for suitcase.

So it would be much more believable for Jennifer Wilson to be dressed in all pink, instead of looking like walking banana or pumpkin.

Aaaand besides, pink is a toned-down version of scarlet!