"BBC Sherlock" articles & other miscellany

[Inge l-w]

And we know exactly how low the double-dealing Mr Moffat's word is to be trusted! Not even as far an one could throw him!

[Caya]

I distrust Moffat as much as anyone but in regards to fanfiction, he's always been genuine in his assessment that this is basically what they themselves are doing. I think he means what he says, for once :P.

[sfmpco]

Moffat has always been encouraging of the writing, art, dance and even music that has sprung up because of SHERLOCK.  Quite frankly it's refreshing that they aren't trying to silence it because it treads on their copyright.  Perhaps that's because their series is also fan fiction.  Even so, they have always been encouraging.  Moffat and the creative/producing team welcome it all.  

[Carol the Dabbler]

As far as I'm aware, Gene Roddenberry never tried to quash Star Trek fan art either, even though some of it was offered for sale (but not exactly for profit) at convention art shows and such.  A friend of mine was wearing her own handmade IDIC pendant when she asked for his autograph, and he merely complimented her on the nice work.

 

The line generally seems to be drawn when there's an obvious attempt to market mass-produced products.

 

[sittything]

I do think it's good for the franchises to not squash fan artwork and fiction.   If anything, I feel like all of the fan stuff just garners more excitement and interest.  Keeps fandoms going between seasons or even after series are off the air. 

[sittything]

An aside, but I will say... I REALLY like Gatiss (he gets bonus points just for being Mycroft).  I'd kind of formed a bad impression of Moffat based on stuff I've read on the internet, but I must say.... from the interviews I've read, he seems quite likable.   The only time I've ever really gone WTF at Moffat was regarding the "there's a clue everyone missed."  Uh, no.  It seems not.

[Caya]

As far as I'm aware, Gene Roddenberry never tried to quash Star Trek fan art either, even though some of it was offered for sale (but not exactly for profit) at convention art shows and such.  A friend of mine was wearing her own handmade IDIC pendant when she asked for his autograph, and he merely complimented her on the nice work.

 

The line generally seems to be drawn when there's an obvious attempt to market mass-produced products.

 

Marion Zimmer Bradley even edited anthologies of fan fiction in her world Darkover. She stated that they weren't canon, her involvement notwithstanding, but she was perfectly happy to share her playground. I've always admired that stance.

[Inge l-w]

Dear Caya, you and that princess among amphibians are definitely my favourite moderators ( not to denigrate Arcadia's sense of humour and TOBY's rapier-mind rants) ! Marion Zimmer Bradley is an all-time favourite for the Mists of Avalon and Firebrand! If the Sherlock thing goes belly-up, I shall re-immerse myself in her work! You have my sincerest gratitude, a and !

[Arcadia]

An aside, but I will say... I REALLY like Gatiss (he gets bonus points just for being Mycroft).  I'd kind of formed a bad impression of Moffat based on stuff I've read on the internet, but I must say.... from the interviews I've read, he seems quite likable.   The only time I've ever really gone WTF at Moffat was regarding the "there's a clue everyone missed."  Uh, no.  It seems not.

I know what you mean, but I've come to think Moffat's gotten a bum rap. Partly his own fault due to his sometimes melodramatic vocabulary, but on the whole he seems quite decent. (Rumors of his duplicity are greatly exaggerated! :D )

[Inge l-w]

Like his death? He is after all in the dangerous bracket! And if he keeps "Mary" alive in S4, it may not be an exaggeration, hounded as he shall be by numerous irate fans of his fan fiction!

Not to forget that the man lies as he breathes! It has become second nature to him.

[T.o.b.y]

I can't be angry at the man who wrote A Study in Pink. And can I just throw in that I feel uncomfortable reading a lot of negative comments about one of the creators of my favorite TV series on a forum dedicated to it? I mean... It's okay to be critical, of course. Nobody's required to be happy with everything another person says, does or publishes. But I think it's safe to say that if there were no Steven Moffat, there would also be no Sherlock and consequently no friendly little forum in a peaceful corner of the internet to gossip about it.

 

He's certainly good at being provocative. I've seen interviews with him that made me go "what?!?" I don't know anything about his other work (Neither Dr Who nor that sitcom he used to work on interest me). I certainly know nothing about him as a person - I'm not even interested in him as a person, to be honest (I've never been interested in any celebrity beyond their work. Fictional characters I can obsess about all day and night, but real people? Nah. They have to be my friends - or my enemies - to spark that level of curiosity).

 

What he says about fan fiction is very nice, if you ask me (especially considering the content of some fan fiction out there...).

[Inge l-w]

Dear TOBY,

The man who wrote SiP also wrote HLV, my sympathies lie entirely with Mr Gatiss, HoB and TGG and even trying to put the pieces back together again in TEH, and as for Dr Who, the last version I watched had Peter Cushing in it, and said Mr Moffat did do such a good job of ruining TinTin in the film version. He used all three unforgivable curses in HLV, namely Imperio by forcing Sherlock to behave out of character with Janine and confronting Magnussen, Crucio by making Dr Watson suffer through the illusion of happiness shattered by making "Mary" a paid assassin, and Avada Kedavra in the final confrontation between Sherlock and Magnussen, when Mr Moffat's supposed childhood hero is forced to kill in order to keep his vow! Not to mention the Crucio part suffered by both brothers and Dr Watson in the aftermath of the carnage! No, Mr Moffat does not have a lovable mind. In fact, his only redeeming feature is SiB, which we shall be re watching in about three weeks' time. Here's to make it all better!

[sfmpco]

I can't be angry at the man who wrote A Study in Pink. And can I just throw in that I feel uncomfortable reading a lot of negative comments about one of the creators of my favorite TV series on a forum dedicated to it? I mean... It's okay to be critical, of course. Nobody's required to be happy with everything another person says, does or publishes. But I think it's safe to say that if there were no Steven Moffat, there would also be no Sherlock and consequently no friendly little forum in a peaceful corner of the internet to gossip about it.

 

He's certainly good at being provocative. I've seen interviews with him that made me go "what?!?" I don't know anything about his other work (Neither Dr Who nor that sitcom he used to work on interest me). I certainly know nothing about him as a person - I'm not even interested in him as a person, to be honest (I've never been interested in any celebrity beyond their work. Fictional characters I can obsess about all day and night, but real people? Nah. They have to be my friends - or my enemies - to spark that level of curiosity).

 

What he says about fan fiction is very nice, if you ask me (especially considering the content of some fan fiction out there...).

 

Yes, T.o.b.y.  Precisely.  

[J.P.]

What? Moffat unlikable? Why? His lying is merely protecting us from our own inquisitiveness (= spoilers). He has this wicked kind of humor and might be a bit less subtle than Gatiss. But I like him, and actually admire him for his ability to lie (=improvise) from the hip - he's not lesser actor than the others.

 

I even cannot be angry at him for giving Sherlock the `stache on my Sherlock Chronicles' dust jacket. :lol:

 

PS: If we missed something will show when it's revealed. If it will be revealed.

[sfmpco]

I actually like Moffat a lot.  I think he's probably a very decent, hard working man.  And I like Sue Vertue a lot too.  She just seems lovely all the time when she's on a panel.  I would love to have a sit down dinner with them.

[J.P.]

Actually, the fact that you never know if he's sincere makes him somehow interesting (like Sherlock) and keeps you on your toes all the time. One needs brains for that, and brains never fails to impress me.

You just need to remember to: 1-never to trust him, 2-never ask him serious questions expecting serious answers. (also like in Sherlock's case, btw :D)

[J.P.]

But if the info at IMDB is right - he could have been a teacher who was feared by many... goldfishies.

[sfmpco]

This one bears repeating.  Especially #5.

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/10537064/Sherlock-facts-21-things-you-didnt-know.html

[J.P.]

Eh... we know that, those who don't want to know are resistent to any amount of repeating. ;)

 

BTW, finally something new. #1 was interesting and new to me.

 

I was also pleased to read the pen trick wasn't CGI and the bit about the flat above Speedy's. Well, the photo of the room is how I expect a single man dwelling to look like. :D

 

Now it's official - Ben hates the curly mop. But hell, what's wrong with looking like a woman? Is it, by any chance, a sexist statement? ;)

And no, he doesn't look like a woman. He looks softer, younger, more exotic, different.

 

PS: I would trade his mop against mine any time.

[Shadow Dweller]

8. Yes, please!

10. Oooh... the hunt is on! <3

17. ROFL!

[sfmpco]

8. Yes, please!

10. Oooh... the hunt is on! <3

17. ROFL!

 

This should make #10 easier for you:

 

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_odkw=young+ace+magazine+sherlock&_osacat=0&_from=R40&_trksid=p2045573.m570.l1313.TR1.TRC0.A0.H0.Xsherlock+manga.TRS0&_nkw=sherlock+manga&_sacat=0

[J.P.]

Now... this is scary, despite the (mostly) good quality. Still I would like to have a look into those comics which are based on the BBC epsodes.

[Carol the Dabbler]

Thanks for posting that, Jenny. That's far and away the best "things you didn't know about Sherlock" article that I've seen (particularly since it doesn't seem to include anything that we didn't know because it's not true!).

The page they linked to at #2 (regarding how the Tube is portrayed on Sherlock) is hilarious in its own right.
 
If the upstairs flat (at #12) is only 370 square feet, it certainly does not occupy the entire floor -- the whole flat (including the "separate kitchen") is only about the size of Sherlock's living room.  They show only one window in what appears to be the living room, so perhaps the other front window is in the "spacious double bedroom" (presumably meaning it's only large enough for a regular double bed) mentioned in the page that they link to.  (Here's Yasuhiro's floor plan for reference.)

[J.P.]

 

The page they linked to at #2 (regarding how the Tube is portrayed on Sherlock) is hilarious in its own right.

 

Yepp. It was surely written by the Train Guy. :D

[J.P.]

In case it wasn't posted yet:

An Interview with Arwel and Claire at the Vienna Convention last year.