Holiday-Special News ("Abominable Bride")

[Lady Vengeance]

I don't think they say anything about the contents, I'm afraid.

 

Let's not forget Mark Gatiss just loves this film, and he's always said it's a huge influence: http://www.theguardian.com/film/2010/nov/07/mark-gatiss-sherlock-holmes

[T.o.b.y]

I just watched the comic con panel with Steven Moffat, Sue Vertue and Rupert Graves.

 

http://sherlockology.tumblr.com/post/123728716570/sherlock-panel-video

 

It was fun - Mr Moffat is very good at this sort of thing, if you ask me.

 

Not much real information about the special or series 4, of course, but a few tidbits here and there were interesting.

 

It seems to me as if the special really will have nothing at all to do with the regular series, so no mind palace or dream or bedtime story or any such thing, I am afraid. Oh well... There's always headcanon. If they don't offer an explanation themselves, I will consider it a prolonged hallucination of Sherlock's under the influence of some new drug he wanted to try out... :D

 

He said some things about being a fan and how you can like a series so much you aren't able to enjoy it any more. I don't think I'm there yet, though... I enjoy Sherlock very very much. But this fear that it will go bad, that is definitely there, and I loved how he talked about that.

[Inge l-w]

Well, at least it's going to be Christmas 1895, if they abide by what they have said numerous times. And the whole thing started going bad in S3, it may have become toxic by S4, if it materialises.

[sfmpco]

Looks like the Moffats, including young Sherlock, have crashed the SHERLOCKEDCC party...

 

https://twitter.com/chixelate/status/619706820475490304/photo/1

 

https://twitter.com/RHicks/status/619708633761185792/photo/1

 

https://twitter.com/BakerStBabes/status/619707429169704960/photo/1

[sfmpco]

Miss the NERD HQ  q&a with Moffat and Vertue and Graves?  Go to 1 hr 35 minutes  to get it started.

 

[J.P.]

 

He said some things about being a fan and how you can like a series so much you aren't able to enjoy it any more. I don't think I'm there yet, though... I enjoy Sherlock very very much. But this fear that it will go bad, that is definitely there, and I loved how he talked about that.

 

Well, even in this case caring is not an advantage. :D

 

I don't remember in which panel Steven was asked about Jim faking his death. I think his answer was the moment when I started to clap my hands, roaring with laughter. He should not only have a cameo. He should have his own show!

[sfmpco]

Here's a bit of another one...

 

http://blogcritics.org/comic-con-2015-sherlock-interview-with-rupert-graves-and-susan-vertue/

[Inge l-w]

Yep! If that article is to be believed, it's just as we thought! 1895 and mischief managed!

[besleybean]

Should be fun.

[Carol the Dabbler]

Sorry, but what is/was "the SHERLOCKEDCC party"?

 

[Inge l-w]

That should be the SHERLOCKED ComiCon party, it's just an acronym.

[sfmpco]

A little bit with Rupert Graves at SherlockeDDC

 

https://de.eurosport.yahoo.com/video/sherlock-superpower-rupert-graves-183626500.html

[Carol the Dabbler]

That should be the SHERLOCKED ComiCon party, it's just an acronym.

 

OK, but what does that mean?  Did the SHERLOCKED convention people put on a party at Comic Con?  Without inviting the cast and crew?

[sfmpco]

I think the party is hosted by Baker Street Babes.

[Inge l-w]

Thanks, sfmpco, that sounds infinitely better than Cumberbitches, or whatever the fan girls were called in the past!

[sfmpco]

Hmmm... no, you misunderstand.  http://bakerstreetbabes.com/

[Inge l-w]

Literary fan girls then! One grows old but never stops learning! Thank you, Dear sfmpco!

[Boton]

 

 

 

What we don't know is who is living at Baker Street. My guess is only Holmes, because Mrs Hudson addresses just him when she talks about coming home. (Plus we've seen pictures of Mary, so it seems that Watson is already married in this version).

 

 

 

My bet is still that that 2016 Mary has died, and the flashback is a way for John to deal with the loss in some way.  Because somehow, death and Christmas are not incompatible to Moffatt.

 

Can't wait for the special, though!

 

 

 

That same question had occurred to me, and my hope parallels yours.  So far, the main reason I think this is a clip from the actual Special is that, as you point out later, we are never told what's in Watson's basket.

 

Carol, I assumed from the dialog that it was the dismembered legs (?) from the case they just solved.

[Carol the Dabbler]

But didn't Holmes say they hadn't yet found the legs?  (Doubt they'd fit in Watson's basket anyhow.)  But yeah, presumably some selection of body parts.  Maybe the doctor is planning to run some medical tests on them.

 

[Inge l-w]

Yep! They were still looking for the legs, he calls it a 'draw'!

Those people will use everything, but everything! So they throw in a bit of the Granada music theme, while Mr Moffat expounds on how he solved the problem of John Hamish Watson's middle name in SiB, while all the time, they were (surprise, surprise) magpying it from the Granada series, in this instance, The Mazarin Stone!

[Carol the Dabbler]

Did Grenada mention Watson's middle name?  Actually, Moffat has finally given explicit credit (in one of the Comic Con Q&A videos) to Dorothy L. Sayers for the "Hamish" explanation -- which predates the Granada episode by four decades.

 

[Arcadia]

But didn't Holmes say they hadn't yet found the legs?  (Doubt they'd fit in Watson's basket anyhow.)  But yeah, presumably some selection of body parts.  Maybe the doctor is planning to run some medical tests on them.

I think it's more likely the detective is planning to run some experiments on them. :D

[Inge l-w]

Yep! I have written several times about how one of the Queens of Crime delved into Sherlock Holmes much earlier than the annotated editions to ferret out his birthplace ( Yorkshire) his date of birth (6th January) although I'm not sure she didn't do it as a prank ( Holmes=Epiphany ) and Dr Watson's full name! Even the upturned coat collar was pilfered:

[besleybean]

Yes I can recommend: Sherlock Holmes unauthorized biography by Nick Rennison.

[Boton]

But didn't Holmes say they hadn't yet found the legs?  (Doubt they'd fit in Watson's basket anyhow.)  But yeah, presumably some selection of body parts.  Maybe the doctor is planning to run some medical tests on them.

 

 

Yeah, what you said.  Some body part or other.  But I kind of think Holmes is the one planning the experiments!